Alariwo's confession
For
popular Afro Beat act, Rotimi Matins fondly dubbed ‘Alariwo of Africa,’ life
always had its surprising twists and turns; not just when he became a toast of
music fans across the globe but even in the hustle and bustle of surviving the
rugged terrain of the streets of Lagos.
As
an entertainer; happily married with three kids, Alariwo cuts the image a man
with so much working for him. While this would be ticked as being right, the
singer has also has his fair share of travails.
One
of such encounters played out when he met his wife and professed love to her.
However, despite the sincerity of his feelings for her, her father made it
clear that he was not ready to accept Alariwo as a son-in-law.
In
an interview with Opeyemi Ajayi, Alariwo
revealed details of how he eventually conquered his father-in-law’s resistance
and won his heart.
In
addition, he also spoke about one of his biggest mentors, Fela Anikulapo Kuti,
his own music career, his plans for the Nigerian music industry, how Lucky
Dube’s death moved him to record a song for him in 45 minutes and other
interesting issues.
You once did an album
where you claimed to be the ‘king of Crossover music.’ Your critics have been
saying you have abandoned Afro music and you are now trying to hook up with the
commercial type of music. What is your reaction to this?
Afro
music is commercial; any music that is commercial is commercial. I came up with
a concept that is called crossover beats and that is why people call me Crossover
King. Crossover music is a fusion of highlife, traditional rhythm and emphasis
on Afro beats. To the commercial aspect of it, I’m a musician and I’m
exploring. Exploring can be done from different perspectives and when people
listen to my song, they would still realize that it has got a fusion of Afro
beat in it. I can never abandon my kind of concept. My concept is a fusion of
African rhythm and I’m still doing it.
There was a movie in the
works on Fela by Warner Bros and South Africa was picked as the
location for the movie. Fela is a Nigerian - what’s your reaction to this?
South Africa has a lot of
facilities they can provide for them. Nigeria does not have the
facilities they want. Production wise, equipment wise, Nigeria is no match for SA. They can go to local territories in South Africa
to shoot. It is not that they cannot shoot the film here in Nigeria but they feel more convenient and safer
shooting in South Africa.
If they are bringing equipments from America;
even if some of them are missing, they know that when they get to South Africa
they can get it. So, they want something more comfortable.
Fela is a Nigerian and
the house he lived in when he was alive is still in existence. Don’t you think
it will rub off the fact that Fela is truly a Nigerian?
It’s
a movie and so it’s not compulsory they have to do it in Fela’s house. It’s not
compulsory they have to do it in Fela’s country. They have sat down and they
must have done their homework. I feel they know the right place to do what they
want to do. The film Mandela by Danny Glover was not shot in South Africa, but there were some scenes that
were shot in South Africa;
so, we should not be particular about where they want to shoot it as long as
they deliver.
Don’t you think that for
Fela’s sake and for tourism sake, they should shoot some scenes here in Nigeria?
We
don’t know if they are still going to shoot some scenes in Nigeria but I want to believe that
some scenes might be shot here. I’m not too sure.
How has it been working
with Nelson Brown?
Nelson
Brown has been my producer from the very first day I came out as Alariwo of
Africa. He will continue to be my producer till I stop making music. I derive
joy working with Nelson Brown because we understand each other. I was
discovered by Femi Lasode and Nelson Brown, even if I don’t have money to give
to Nelson to say thank you, I will continue to appreciate Nelson for what he
has been doing for me and what he is still doing. I have a new song ‘Back on
Track.’ I actually refused Nelson producing it because I didn’t want him to
hear the content of the song. After producing, I played it for him. In the song
I said ‘…e don tey, no be today, Africa en vogue, na him show me the way,
Nelson Brown go do our beat but we no go pay…’ It’s an avenue for people to
know what we went through with Nelson Brown; what the likes of 2 Face and the
rest of us had with Nelson. He discovered us, stayed with us and sponsored us
without even looking back. I feel comfortable working with Nelson because he is
a crossover producer. If it is High Life, Hip Hop, R n B, Dancehall or any kind
of music you want to hear. He can make the beat for you and because he’s
experienced, I want to work with an experienced person and an experienced
legend that I feel comfortable working with. We went to awards together and we
had not even slept but we are ready to go back to my house and make some beats
in my studio.
Are you still a
broadcaster?
I’m
still a broadcaster. I resigned from Eko FM 89.75 in 2004. Others stations have
been begging me to come over but I refused going back to radio until I get a
station that I feel comfortable to work with and the programme would still be
called Afro Fusion; strictly Afro beat. I still have it in mind to do
presentation on radio. I was on radio for 14years and I think I should just get
a break. It was not about the money. It was about the love. Sometimes, when I
hear myself talking on radio, I feel proud that I’m the one talking. We were
not paid properly but the love was just there. Broadcasting has to be in you;
some people just spend 2 or 5 years and they still regard themselves as
broadcaster. They don’t know what it entails. They don’t know the rudiments of
broadcasting but we can’t argue with them. I’m still a broadcaster by God’s
grace.
What informed the name
Alariwo of Africa?
I’m
still a journalist and an Emcee. But back then when I held Emcee at events,
somebody just said ‘…je ka gbo orin jo alariwo (which translates into ‘let us
hear the song…noisemaker’). To the person that said that, he was insulting me
but I took it as a complement. I was Alariwo of Oregun until I met Femi Lasode
and he said Alariwo of Africa. So, the person that gave me the name thought he
was insulting me but I took it as a complement. He is still there in Oregun,
his name is Paul Gee and he’s from Bayelsa state. Here I am, I’m still Alariwo
and I can’t change it. So, the name was given to me by someone.
Can we get to know the
family man, Alariwo of Africa?
The
family man Alariwo is married to his wife, mother and friend. He is married to
a lady that can never be taken away from him. He’s married to a lady that no
matter how many ladies come close to him, those ladies will go and the woman
will stay. He’s married to a lady that suffered with him; a lady that by God’s
grace, no woman can come in between them. He’s married to a lady that if he’s
hungry and has no money, the lady will make sure money comes from somewhere.
You know women have a way of hiding money. If you give them N1, 000, they will
use N200 and keep the remaining N800. My wife is everything to me. My wife is
my life. On my phone, she’s my screensaver. I stored her name with ‘My Life’ on
my phone. I don’t mess around with her. Anybody that cannot stand the heat in
the kitchen should please leave. When she was going through the thick and thin
of life with me, nobody was there and I’m not ready to accommodate anybody.
How did you meet her?
I
met my wife in Oregun. She came with her best friend to see her best friend’s
boyfriend then. Immediately I saw her, what struck me was that we look alike
and I said to myself that this is my wife. I playfully told her that I would
marry her. She was just looking at me with disgust. Then, I was nobody. The
year was around 1995. Her mother owns a shop where she sells bags of rice. She
would go to her mother’s shop, steal some cups of rice and groundnut oil and
bring them to me. Then, I was a street boy with street credibility and I was
staying with a friend in Oregun. She was working and was trying to make things
work for me. The day I respected my wife was when I had this show in
Porthacourt with Ettien Tboy and Daniel Wilson. When I came back, I was paid N30,
000. The cab that I boarded from the airport down to my house belonged to
people that had set me up. I didn’t know they had taken the money from me. I
was so exhausted on getting to her office. She told me not to worry; that it
had been destined to happen that way. She later gave me N100. I went home and
slept with a comforted soul. She’s always been there and I will continue to
appreciate her. I’ve got three lovely kids. I’ve got Johanna, Kikelomo and
David. Dakijo was formed out of these three names. I just picked the first two
beginning letters of the name of my last born to the first to give ‘Dakijo.’ My
first born is Johanna, while the second is Kikelomo and my last born who is a
boy is David. So, I turned the name backwards and used the initials to form my
label.
How do you balance
entertainment with family life?
I
do spend quality time with my kids. I love my family and anytime I wake up, I
thank God for myself because some of my colleagues are yet to get married. The
colleagues of my generation are not yet married. If I wasn’t married before I
became a celebrity, the tendency of not getting married might have set in so I
thank God I’m married and I’m enjoying every bit of it.
How did you pop the
question?
I
didn’t pop the question. It just happened naturally. I believe what belongs to
you comes to you. It just clicked and we became very close. Those times, I
would be handling events; I would be on stage and some guys at the event would
be toasting my wife. She would say: “That’s my husband” and the toasters would
say: “It’s a lie; you guys look very much alike.” One day, I just said to her,
let’s get married and she laughed because she thought I was joking.
How many years did you
guys date?
I
met her in 1995 and I got married to her in 1996. When I told her we should get
married, she did not react. Like I said, what belongs to you is definitely yours.
Maybe it was destined that we are going to be married. Things were very rough
for us. We left my friend’s place where we were staying to my dad’s house but I
wasn’t too comfortable with this because she was pregnant. When she put to bed
my first child, I got my first 1million naira concert. Immediately I collected
the money and I drove out of Ojota because I didn’t want an apartment in Ojota.
While I was driving, I saw an uncle of mine who was trained by my father. Incidentally,
he was an estate agent at that time. He told me he had 3-bedroom flat and I
inquired the price and he told me. When I saw the place, I said I’d take it and
I paid for 4 years because I know myself. If I hadn’t paid, I might end up
spending carelessly. She put to bed in 1999. We stayed with my dad for like 7 months
before we now moved to Ogba after securing the apartment. I used the remaining
money to put the house in order.
Your wife saw your
growth in the industry. How was she reacting to your female fans then and now?
She
never reacted. She was always calm. Back then, when she was pregnant and I’m
having an event to attend, we are always at the event together. She was not
encouraged by her parents and I didn’t want her to feel depressed.
Did her parents try to
stop the marriage?
No,
her father was not really in support of the marriage because her father knew me
on the street as a street boy. You know fathers are always protective but later
the man had to accept. We are best of friends now.
How come you’ve remained
relevant?
I
remain relevant for two treasons. One is God and the other is the fact that I’m
a graduate of Public Relations and I know I love PR, so I have to be at the
right places at the right time. I don’t have a publicist. I do my publicity
myself. If you are not at the right places at the right time, you can’t get the
right things at the right time. Like I said, I’ve remained relevant through God
and my humble self. I’m making things work for myself and people are wondering
how I am able to sustain myself without doing music. I’m a professional MC, I
package events. I consult for people and I own a studio so I have a lot of
things that can generate funds for me by God’s grace. So no matter how small it
is, God is in control.
Your songs always blame
the government and entertainment enthusiasts are beginning to feel that you
can’t do music that people can really dance to. What is your reaction to this?
I’m
a musician; whatever song you hear from me, you listen. If you don’t like the
first track, then you can skip to the next track. In this new album, I have
commercial songs. I have songs criticizing the government as well. But like I
said, if you listen to one and you don’t like it because Alariwo has started
criticizing the government again, then skip it to the next track. If you don’t
like the next one that has to do with love, skip it to the next one that has to
do with me talking about my career. Life is about change. Whichever one you
like, you choose. My album was produced by Nelson Brown, Dokta Frabs and a
young boy called K Piano. I had to use different people because everybody knows
Nelson is my childhood friend and they are saying why would Nelson do all my
songs and I’m like okay, let me get other people on the album too; and that was
exactly what I did. So, whatever people feel about the song let them listen,
the ones they don’t want to hear, skip to the next track. The Hip Hop boys will
say DJ, track 2.
With the recent
development in the music industry that has seen Nigerian artistes featuring
international acts, what do you think this is doing for the industry?
Well,
everybody has his own vision and focus about how he/she is going to live his/her
life. I’m a musician. By God’s grace, I’m a young legend and by God’s grace, my
songs always stand the test of time. I was going to UK, in the plane, ‘Yawa Go Gas’ was
played and I was so happy. The pilot said they should go and call me from the
regular seats (Economy) and they took me to Business class. I did not pay N320,
000 naira, I paid N80, 000 on an Arik flight but I was elevated. My song was
done in 1998 but when they play it, people still stand and dance. Most Nigerian
musicians now are singing rubbish and smiling to the bank because they want to
make money. They don’t want to make what we call credibility. They don’t want
to do what people will listen to in 15 years time and still love. If my son ask
me what ‘Yawa go gas’ means, I can explain to him what I means. I was talking
about the situation of the country then which is still relevant. When Fela was
talking, they thought he was crazy, when I called Tony Ogaga now, what I heard
from his caller tone was ‘whether you like or you no like, after you hear this
little talk…’ Now, why would Jay Z use Fela’s song to do a rap? I almost got a
deal in America
but my international manager blew it because he was being professional. There
is a group called ‘The Roots’ in America. They wanted to use ‘Yawa
Go Gas’ but my international manager said she doesn’t believe in royalties and
that they should pay her the full money. That was how I lost it. If ‘The Roots’
had used ‘Yawa Go Gas’ without telling me, I wouldn’t have bothered because I
know they will pay me royalty. This happened in 2006. They went to a shop and
saw a compilation that included ‘Yawa Go Gas’ and it took their interest. In America,
you play songs and you listen. You don’t play it on the street. They listened
to the song and thought it was Fela. They loved the song. What they wanted was
to know just the chorus alone and fuse their rap in it and I lost it.
How did you feel about
it?
I
don’t need to feel anyhow because my manager was doing her job. Normally, you
have to give advance royalty before you take someone’s song. The Roots is the
only rap group in America
that plays live band. I can’t do anything; maybe it was destined to happen that
way. If it had happened, my brother, I would have been a step ahead. It’s not
just about doing something with foreign artistes. It’s about delivering your
best when a time to do collaboration with foreign artiste comes. A lot of
people are doing collaborations with foreign artistes and it’s working out well
for them. When it’s my turn to do it, I’ll do it. If it doesn’t come, then I’ll
continue to be myself. Fela never did a collaboration with any foreign artiste.
Foreign artistes were coming to do collabos with him. Ginger Baker, Sandra
Dickson did and he even wrote songs for them. So, if anybody appreciates me,
then all well and good. I appreciate a whole lot of people. Internationally,
I’m crazy about Robert Kelly, India Irie and Angie Stone. I’m a deep artiste
but I can’t force myself to meet them. If I meet them and the opportunity
comes, I’ll do it. If you ask me the person I want to do a collabo with right
now, I’ll tell you India Irie because I’m a deep artiste and I know the kind of
songs I want to do. Foreign artistes like Salif Keita, Bobba Marl, Yousun Dour
and a host of them are my favourites that I would love to work with if I had
the opportunity. As for foreign artistes in America, I would love to have
R-Kelly because I love his style of music because he sings, raps, and does
everything. He is a crossover king in America. I sing too and I rap. I was discouraged from
rap by Nelson Brown. I rap very well. I also do Afro Beat very well. I do
comedy very well and I package events very well so, I’m a big time crossover
king.
Now that we've heard his story, i feel Alariwo deserves a hug
Interview by Opeyemi Ajayi
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